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BELGRADE 2008 SEMI-FINAL 1 PROJECTION |
On January 29th, the
initial draw for the 2008 Eurovision Song Contest was made, when the
38 countries which have to qualify for this year's final were drawn
into their their two respective semi-finals. Following the
controversy which surrounded the qualifiers from the semi-final in
2007, the countries were split into six different pots, based on
geography and previous voting patterns and an equal number of
countries were drawn from each pot to each semi-final, in order to
ensure that both shows were as balanced as possible.
In addition, Eurovision's
"Big 4" (France, Germany, Spain & the United Kingdom)
and 2008 hosts Serbia were also drawn into two sections to decide
which of the two semi-finals they would broadcast and vote in. On
this page we look at the countries that were drawn to compete in the
first semi-final on Tuesday May 20th, which includes Ireland and
which countries might be best placed to qualify, based on previous
voting trends.
To start this projection, we need
to look back over the votes cast in previous years, but deciding how
far to go back is a matter of opinion. We have used all votes cast
in the last ten years, in both semi-finals and finals. This is done
because 1998 was the first year that public televoting was used used
instead of national juries in most countries. As our souce of
information, we have used the votes database at the excellent ESCNation
website.
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Tallying the votes is not as
straighforward as you might imagine, as it isn't simply a matter of
totalling or even averaging the votes that each country awards to
others. A major consideration is what the votes database describes
as the "Friend Index". A country may award more points to
the countries that have been successful over the past ten years, but
the "Friend Index" measures what proportion of each
country's votes are cast. For example, Slovenia got 60 points in
1997, 7 of which came for France, which is 11.67% of their score. So
the relative score from France to Slovenia is 11.67. The mean
relative score from France to Slovenia is the average of all such
scores in the past ten years, and in which both countries
participated. To make our projection of the
final scores that each country will receive in Semi-Final 1, we have
used both the total votes and also the "Friend Index", of
all countries voting. This projection is only for fun, and other
elements such the position in the running order and of course the
quality of the song and its performance will make a much better
indicator of which countries qualify for the final.
Two other things are worth
remembering: both of this year's Eurovision debutants, Azerbaijan
and San Marino are in Semi Final 1, and as we have no history of
these counties voting or receiving votes, we have to leave them out
of this projection. Secondly, the public votes will only choose nine
of the ten qualifiers from each semi-final, the tenth finalist will
be chosen by the reserve juries based in each country and will be
awarded to the country that receives the highest jury score, but has
not qualified from the public's votes. There is absolutely no way of
guessing how the juries will vote.
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AD |
AM |
AZ |
BE |
BA |
EE |
FI
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GR |
IE
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IL
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MD |
CG |
NL |
NO |
PL |
RO |
RU |
SM |
SI
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DE |
ES |
TOTAL |
| Andorra |
X |
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|
1 |
1 |
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|
4 |
|
3 |
|
5 |
|
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|
|
12 |
26 |
| Armenia |
|
X |
|
10 |
|
|
|
10 |
|
7 |
7 |
|
10 |
|
12 |
|
8 |
|
|
3 |
8 |
75 |
| Azerbaijan |
|
|
X |
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|
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|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
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|
0 |
| Belgium |
6 |
|
|
X |
|
7 |
|
2 |
10 |
3 |
1 |
|
12 |
|
10 |
|
3 |
|
4 |
|
2 |
60 |
| Bosnia-Herz. |
|
5 |
|
1 |
X |
|
5 |
|
|
|
2 |
10 |
8 |
12 |
|
1 |
|
|
12 |
8 |
|
64 |
| Estonia |
|
|
|
|
5 |
X |
12 |
1 |
12 |
2 |
6 |
2 |
5 |
7 |
6 |
2 |
2 |
|
10 |
5 |
|
77 |
| Finland |
12 |
|
|
3 |
8 |
12 |
X |
5 |
|
1 |
|
4 |
6 |
10 |
|
3 |
|
|
2 |
6 |
1 |
73 |
| Greece |
5 |
10 |
|
8 |
7 |
2 |
4 |
X |
1 |
6 |
5 |
|
7 |
4 |
|
8 |
7 |
|
3 |
10 |
4 |
91 |
| Ireland |
2 |
2 |
|
|
|
6 |
3 |
|
X |
|
|
|
|
8 |
|
4 |
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|
25 |
| Israel |
7 |
|
|
7 |
3 |
5 |
7 |
6 |
2 |
X |
3 |
3 |
4 |
|
3 |
5 |
6 |
|
|
7 |
7 |
75 |
| Moldova |
|
6 |
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|
|
3 |
|
7 |
|
5 |
X |
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|
|
2 |
12 |
10 |
|
1 |
|
6 |
52 |
| Montenegro |
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|
10 |
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|
X |
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|
8 |
|
|
18 |
| Netherlands |
10 |
7 |
|
12 |
1 |
4 |
2 |
4 |
7 |
10 |
|
1 |
X |
6 |
|
|
4 |
|
5 |
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|
73 |
| Norway |
|
4 |
|
5 |
|
8 |
8 |
3 |
8 |
4 |
8 |
7 |
1 |
X |
7 |
|
1 |
|
7 |
1 |
|
72 |
| Poland |
4 |
8 |
|
4 |
4 |
|
|
|
6 |
|
|
6 |
|
2 |
X |
10 |
|
|
|
12 |
3 |
59 |
| Romania |
8 |
3 |
|
2 |
6 |
|
|
8 |
3 |
12 |
12 |
5 |
|
3 |
8 |
X |
12 |
|
|
2 |
10 |
94 |
| Russia |
3 |
12 |
|
6 |
2 |
10 |
10 |
12 |
4 |
8 |
10 |
8 |
|
5 |
1 |
7 |
X |
|
6 |
4 |
|
108 |
| San
Marino |
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|
X |
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0 |
| Slovenia |
1 |
1 |
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|
12 |
|
6 |
|
5 |
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|
12 |
2 |
1 |
4 |
6 |
5 |
|
X |
|
5 |
60 |
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Above you can see our
projected voting table, based on the votes cast by each
country since 1998, and highlighted in blue are the nine
countries that we would expect to qualify based on those
scores. Below you can see the nine potential qualifiers in
descending order;
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Russia (108)
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Romania (94)
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Greece (91)
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Estonia (77)
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Israel (75)
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Armenia (75)
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Finland (73)
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Netherlands (73)
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Norway (72)
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Jury Selection
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Here's a little background on the votes,
and why we think that we probably already know three qualifiers
(Russia, Romania & Greece) from this semi-final, even
before they choose their songs.
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ANDORRA has yet to
rach the Eurovision final, but the best news from the
draw for the Andorrans was that Spain would be showing
their semi-final, and was very likely to award them a
top mark and based on previous years they should also
pick up a scattering of other low points, but they will
once again have their work cut out to qualify. With
neither of their neighbours or Portugal, another country
which Andorra tends to favour competing in this
semi-final, its Finland who could get their top points,
but Netherlands and Romania won't be far behind. |
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ARMENIA has a 100%
qualifying record from its two previous Eurovision
participations, and our projection says that they'll
make it a three in a row. While Georgia, their biggest
supporters are in the other semi-final, Russia,
Netherlands and Belgium all have large Armenian emigrant
groups, while Poland, lacking most of its favoured
neighbours may also exchange high points with Armenia.
When voting, we expect Armenians to go for Russia and
Greece, but don't expect anything for neighbours
Azerbaijan, as the countries are still technically at
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AZERBAIJAN is
one of two countries making its Eurovision debut in this
semi-final. The country is bordered by Turkey and
Georgia, who are in the other semi-final, Russia which
would be expected to vote for it and Armenia, who most
likely won't, for political reasons. Azerbaijan is
culturally very close to Turkey and many people are
predicting that the Turkish emigrant votes in places
like Germany, Netherlands and Belgium, will transfer to
Azerbaijan and if this happens, it could give the Azeri
entry a head start for qualifying for the final. |
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BELGIUM has never
managed to qualify under the semi-final system and our
projection says that this won't change in 2008. Almost
all of Belgium's biggest supporters are either in the
other semi-final or are automatically qualified, leaving
neighbours Netherlands and perhaps surprisingly Poland
as the Belgians best chance for getting high points. When it
comes to Belgian votes, the Dutch could get a pay-back, while
Armenian emigrants could also make their pressence felt. |
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BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA has
been separed by from most of its biggest supporters,
with Croatia, Turkey, Sweden and Denmark in the other
semi, Serbia showing that show, and Austria not
competing this year. The Bosnians will therefore be
hoping for other former Yugslav neighbours Montenegro
and Slovenia to support them, as well as Bosnian emigrants
in Norway. When it comes to voting, Bosnia is likely to
return the favour to its neighbours and also give Greece
high points. However based on out projection, Bosnia may
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ESTONIA is one of a handful
of countries to have failed to qualify from the
semi-finals, every year since they were introduced in
2004. However our projection says that this is the year
that will change. Despite the fact that neigbours Latvia
and Lithuania are in the other semi-final, Estonia
should get top marks from neighbours Finland and perhaps more
surprisingly Ireland. When it comes to voting, expect
more neighbourly trends with Finland, Russia and Norway
picking up the top points.
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FINLAND is likely to swap
its top points with Estonia and with Norway and more
unexpecedly Andorra also helping out, it looks like
Finland is a good bet to qualify for this year's final.
Finland is likely to vote for Russia and many feel that the Azeri entry
is the kind of oddball performance that seems to appeal
to Finns. Beware however that a lot of Finland's points
were gained by Lordi, and these may not come Finland's
way in 2008 and with Sweden and Denmark in the other
semi-final, it could be a very close call.
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GREECE has the best record
in the contest since the format changed in 2004, and our
projection predicts another easy passage into the final
in May, despite he fact that some of Greece's biggest
supporters including Cyprus, Albania, Bulgaria and the
U.K. are involved in the other semi-final. Greece will
be hoping for good points from Armenia, Romania and
Russia, and when it comes to voting, these countries
will also expect to be the biggest beneficiaries of the
Greek televote.
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IRELAND may have the best
Eurovision history, but the last few
years have been generally disappointing and with all of
Ireland's biggest supporters, including the U.K.,
Lithuania, Hungary and Portugal being involved in the
second semi-final, it looks like an Irish entry may not
qualify, for the second time in four
years. With Irish televoters favourites, the U.K. and Lithuania
not in this semi-final field, the Irish points could go to Estonia,
Belgium, a country traditionally favoured by the Irish
or even Poland, which has a large emigrant population
in Ireland.
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ISRAEL got mixed news from
the draw. While counries like Greece, Russia and
Romania, who tend to favour Israel can once again
support them in 2008, Turkey and Portugal are in the other
semi-final, and France (Israel's biggest supporters) is also showing that
semi. Nevertheless, our projection
says that Israel should just about qualify. Russia,
Romania and perhaps more surprisingly the Netherlands
are likely to attract the votes of the Israeli public,
based on recent contests.
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MOLDOVA has appeared
in the last three Eurovision finals, but our projection
suggests that they will miss out this year. Neighbours
Russia and Romania are likely to be Moldova's biggest
supporters based on previous voting trends and Bosnia
could also be sending high points their way, but after
that, it looks like it will be little or nothing from
the rest of Europe. Romania is virtually guaranteed
twelve points from Moldova, with Russia getting the ten.
After that other former members of the USSR like Armenia
and Estonia and Azerbaijan could get get Moldovan
support. |
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MONTENEGRO made is
debut as an independent country in Helsinki in 2007, but
unlike neighbours Serbia who went on to win the
competition, Montenegro stuggled for support and and
failed to qualify. With only two sets of votes (semi and
final from 2007) to go on, projecting Montenegrin votes
is quite difficult, however other former Yugoslav
neighbours like Bosnia-Herz. and Slovenia are likely to
swap their high points with Montenegro, but a much
better entry than 2007 will be needed, if Montenegro is
to progress to the final. |
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NETHERLANDS has only
one qualification from a semi-final, back in 2004.
Despite being trapped in the semi for the last three
years, our projection says that things will get better
in Belgrade. As well as top points from neighbours
Belgium, Netherlands tends to pick up lots of low
points, which might not be enough to make it out of a 26
song semi-final but with only 19 countries competing in
this year's semis, things get easier. Belgium would
expect to be paid back in high points and Armenian immigrants
could also provide points to their native country. |
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NORWAY also has only
one qualification from the sem-final, when WigWam
progressed in Kyiv in 2005. Like the Dutch, Norway's
entries tend to pick up lots of low points and with
Norway, Ireland and Estonia in this semi-final, Norway
may not miss their biggest supporters like Sweden,
Iceland and Denmark. Finland and Ireland will be hoping
for big points from Norway, but the top vote is like to
go the Bosnia-Herz., due in no small part to loyal
Norwegian based immigrants. |
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POLAND is another
country that has never seen its name in one of the ten
famous qualifing envelopes, but it has narrowly missed
out on two occasions, finishing 11th in the semi-final
in 2005 and 2006. Our projection says that Poles will be
disappointed once again. Germany, Armenia, Romania and
Ireland could once again be Poland's biggest
contributors, although Poland may not be as generous to
Ireland, and Germany is a guaranteed finalist, when it
comes to voting and may once again give high points to
Armenia and Belgium. |
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ROMANIA is a virtually
certain qualifier from the semi-final, based on previous
voting trends. Neighbours Moldova almost guarantee
televe points, with Israel, Russia and Spain's large
Romanian immigrant community also providing high points.
Indeed only Macedonia, of Romania's biggest supporters
is missing from this semi-final. Romanian votes tend to
stay in the east and Moldova will probably get the
twelve, with Greece, Russia and Poland also likely to
score
well. |
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RUSSIA is another
country that can plan its return from Belgrade for the
Sunday after the final, as another virtually guaranteed
qualifier. Indeed many people feel that after coming
close to victory in the past couple of years, they may
be brining the trophy back with them. It wouldn't be
surprising if the Russian entry gets votes from every
country, with Greece, Finland and Estonia supplying high
points. When Russians come to vote, expect Romania,
Moldova, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Greece to pick up to
big points. |
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SAN MARINO is the
second newcomer in this year's contest, so it's
impossible to use previous votes as a guide to how they
might do. Nevertheless, it's clear that the first
Sanmarinese entry may face an uphill battle to progress.
San Marino has only one neighbour and Italy isn't taking
part in Eurovision and other tiny countries like Andorra
and Monaco have failed to come out of the semi-finals.
Don't be suprised in San Marino use a jury rather than a
televote, as the EBU dictates that a televote is only
valid when a significant number of people vote. |
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SLOVENIA final
qualified from the semi-final in 2007, after three
previous failures and our projection says that they
might just miss out again. Only other former members of
Yugoslavia: Bosnia-Herz. and Montenegro would be likely
to give Slovenia high points as other Balkan neighbours
like Croatia, Macedonia, Serbia and Albania are involved
in the second semi-final. Slovenia is likely to pay back
its neighbours and also help the cause of Estonia and
Norway to progress to the final. |
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GERMANY is one of two
members of the "Big 4" that will be showing
this semi-final and consequently German televiewers will
have a say in deciding who progresses to the final.
Based on previous trends, Poland, Greece and
Bosnia-Herz., will do well in the German televote and
don't be surprised if Turkish immigrants who won't be
able to vote for their own entry, because it is
competing in the second semi-final, switch their support
to Azerbaijan, a country with strong cultural links to
Turkey. |
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SPAIN is the other
member of the "Big 4 showing this semi-final and
Spanish televiewers will also have a say in the result.
This is great news for Andorra and Romania, two
countries that have done very well in Spanish televotes
in recent years. Indeed with a well known Spanish singer
and songwriter responsible for the Andorran entry, they
should be guaranteed the twelve points. |
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